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Rolling up my sleeves

Posted by Robby Russell Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:26:00 GMT

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A former coworker and friend of mine, Al Hulaton, would wear these thin gloves that had some padding under the wrists. He said that he wore them because he would get pains in his wrists and hands from working on the computer so often. I always meant to try a pair and found myself looking at a pair online the other week. They’re called SotFlex Computer Gloves and run just $24.95/pair.

They are going to take some getting used to…

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    topfunky Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:26:47 GMT

    Not to be a troll, but I’ve tried several of those solutions and I’ve gotten the best long-term positive benefit from switching to the Dvorak keyboard layout.

    Previously I couldn’t type on a laptop for more than 30 minutes. Now I can type for a full day on a laptop with no ill effects.

    RSI is the dirty secret of the computer industry and I applaud you for helping to publically expose it, Robby!

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    Ron Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:20:21 GMT

    Whats RSI?

    I never really get any pains, maybe evolution has adapted me? :)

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    Peter Armstrong Sun, 11 Jun 2006 00:21:25 GMT

    I agree with topfunky: switching to Dvorak layout was the best thing I’ve ever done for preventing RSI.

    I used to be a big advocate of the Kinesis contoured keyboard (works great with Dvorak: you can toggle with one key, and also works great with emacs since you can assign big keys to ctrl & escape). However, I found that extensive use of it led to really bad pain in my right thumb. (This was probably my fault for lazy hand positioning, but it happened.)

    Currently, the best thing I can come up with is the following: 1. Dvorak layout. This is just essential. Give it 2 weeks for your brain to learn.

    2. Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000. It has a wonderful split layout, really nice wrist rest and works great on a mac. (You can remap the right application key so that you have two command keys and two option keys, one on each side.) Finally, it has a nice thing which gives you a negative slope if you’re stuck on a flat desk.

    3. Humanscale keyboard arm (humanscale.com). This gives you a negative slope for your keyboard and mouse, as well as a nice mouse stand that you can pivot to exactly where you want.

    4. Humanscale Freedom chair. Puts the Aeron and Steelcase chairs to shame. (Note: they have a mesh one now called liberty which I’ve never tried.)

    Seriously Robby, you’re going to just hurt yourself worse with a stopgap solution like gloves…

    Cheers, Peter

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    David Rice Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:42:32 GMT

    What a coincidence, I was thinking of the same thing today… and just made a [post](http://www.davidjrice.co.uk/articles/2006/06/11/rolling-up-my-sleeves-before-going-to-bed) about something similiar I found out about. I’ll let you know if its worth it.

    I agree Geoffrey, there is a lot of misunderstanding as to what RSI and Carpal Tunnel really are… among an industry so prone to becoming it’s slave.

    For me, removing the elements in my life that were causing the symptoms has started to improve things and will ultimately be the solution… though giving a couple of these devices a try will hopefully help speed things along.

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    Sebastian Gräßl Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:49:41 GMT

    Hej cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

    Mostly my right hand hurts, i think this is because of my mouse, the Apple Mouse is not very ergonomic.

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    Phil Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:29:14 GMT

    I second the recommendation for the Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000. The negative slope makes a huge difference; it’s much better than you would expect. I also support Dvorak, (the keyboard layout, not the troll columnist) but I’ve been using it for longer than I’ve been professionally programming, so I can’t say it’s made a huge difference in reducing pain. It’s just better.

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    Paul Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:18:02 GMT

    One of the most important things to not getting repetitive stress injury is removing the repetition, and I think that the real problem is the mouse and not so much the keyboard (for me anyway).

    I trained myself to use the mouse on the left hand side at work, and right hand side at home, because I felt RSI more in my right hand than my self. I think it’s helped. I’ve also switched to Dvorak.

    Also I’ve found that I can barely use my laptop (with its dinky little keyboard) for more than a couple of hours without a problem.

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    rug Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:36:35 GMT

    cool blog

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    David Thu, 15 Jun 2006 21:16:00 GMT

    Working in a cold building in Portland I discovered how important it is to keep you hands warm. Trying to code with ice cold hands HURTS. I got some finger-less (more like fingertip-less) fleece gloves from REI and they really helped. I was able to hit all the semicolons and braces (yes, C) I needed to without my hands locking up.

    I then discovered that the gloves also really help when playing video games, even when it’s not cold out. The padding they provide results in my hands being much less sore after holding a PS2 or Xbox controller for hours on end.

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    James Adam Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:51:17 GMT

    This is excellent – now coding can be just like playing golf! Except we get gloves on both hands!

    “This method looks like a five-iron…”

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    KnowHumanscale Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:17:33 GMT

    As a long time employee of Humanscale, I can tell you that the blog posted praising the Humanscale Freedom Chair was posted by a Humanscale employee. So, take it with a grain of salt.

    The Freedom chair is not what it’s all cracked up to be. It’s designed to have you sit back in your seat with a 100-110 degree recline. However, when you do that, two things happen: 1.) Your butt tends to slide forward in the chair…towards the front edge. You continually have to readjust to get back to a comfortable position. They spin sell this flaw by saying “movement is critical”. Nice try. 2.) Your lower back tends to pull away from the poor excuse for lumbar support. Lumbar support is critical, yout, when you use the chair the way it is sold, that support is minimal.

    The Liberty Chair: 1.) WAY over priced 2.) Does not hold a candle to other high-end chairs. 3.) The arms do not adjust.

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    brandy Thu, 10 May 2007 16:49:59 GMT

    I used to be a big advocate of the Kinesis contoured keyboard (works great with Dvorak: you can toggle with one key, and also works great with emacs since you can assign big keys to ctrl & escape). However, I found that extensive use of it led to really bad pain in my right thumb. (This was probably my fault for lazy hand positioning, but it happened.)

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    gandonio Sat, 19 May 2007 00:45:28 GMT

    This is excellent – now coding can be just like playing golf! Except we get gloves on both hands!

    “This method looks like a five-iron…”

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    Rotber Fri, 25 May 2007 05:14:19 GMT

    Cool stuff. Very inspirational, indeed. My preferred follow-up would be: Could you give us a couple of examples of things you’ve changed and how you went about it.

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    yamka Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:08:31 GMT

    I like the blog. Wanna make mine as great as yours. Hope to show it to you soon

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    Josh Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:26:34 GMT

    Cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    killah Sun, 03 Jun 2007 02:41:01 GMT

    This is excellent – now coding can be just like playing golf! Except we get gloves on both hands!

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    Vika Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:37:24 GMT

    Great blog. So many fresh ideas. I like it

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    brandy Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:46:44 GMT

    Cool stuff. Very inspirational, indeed. My preferred follow-up would be: Could you give us a couple of examples of things you’ve changed and how you went about it.

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    decl Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:09:31 GMT

    You can get a 50% discount Humanscale chairs with this discount code.

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    ponti Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:14:18 GMT

    I like the blog. Wanna make mine as great as yours. Hope to show it to you soon

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    trenton Sat, 11 Aug 2007 01:03:22 GMT

    Cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    gavner Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:14:25 GMT

    good!

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    trenton Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:30:12 GMT

    what do you mean good?

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    agryppinka Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:41:30 GMT

    I like the blog. Wanna make mine as great as yours. Hope to show it to you soon

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    ponti Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:53:47 GMT

    nice article

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    zerdalia Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:56:24 GMT

    Cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    zeus Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:58:46 GMT

    Cool stuff. Very inspirational, indeed. My preferred follow-up would be: Could you give us a couple of examples of things you’ve changed and how you went about it.

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    zeus Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:10:20 GMT

    This is excellent – now coding can be just like playing golf! Except we get gloves on both hands!

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    zeus Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:33:01 GMT

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    asserd Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:51:21 GMT

    You can get a 50% discount Humanscale chairs with this discount code.

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    brandy Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:37:53 GMT

    not bad….

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    decl Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:48:02 GMT

    I then discovered that the gloves also really help when playing video games, even when it’s not cold out. The padding they provide results in my hands being much less sore after holding a PS2 or Xbox controller for hours on end.

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    gangsta Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:56:29 GMT

    Hej cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    grower Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:04:28 GMT

    cool blog

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    decl Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:18:33 GMT

    You can get a 50% discount Humanscale chairs with this discount code.

    01ERNYOPK

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    decl Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:24:49 GMT

    I second the recommendation for the Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000. The negative slope makes a huge difference; it’s much better than you would expect. I also support Dvorak, (the keyboard layout, not the troll columnist) but I’ve been using it for longer than I’ve been professionally programming, so I can’t say it’s made a huge difference in reducing pain. It’s just better.

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    trenton Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:29:56 GMT

    This is excellent – now coding can be just like playing golf! Except we get gloves on both hands!

    “This method looks like a five-iron…”

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    ponti Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:39:50 GMT

    Cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    killah Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:44:31 GMT

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    asserd Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:55:42 GMT

    You can get a 50% discount Humanscale chairs with this discount code.

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    asserd Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:33:49 GMT

    Cool stuff. Very inspirational, indeed. My preferred follow-up would be: Could you give us a couple of examples of things you’ve changed and how you went about it.

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    barda Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:04:36 GMT

    You can get a 50% discount Humanscale chairs with this discount code.

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    barda Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:25:33 GMT

    thank you very much!!!!

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    barda Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:36:12 GMT

    thanks!!!!

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    ponti Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:36:53 GMT

    wow! fantastic!

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    grower Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:46:32 GMT

    yeah. it’s amazing!

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    killah Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:48:54 GMT

    Cool, i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    agryppinka Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:15:16 GMT

    perfect!!!!

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    rivini Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:40:48 GMT

    thanks for sharing

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    balla Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:53:12 GMT

    (Hope it helps with your wrists, Robby :))

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    abrek Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:42:43 GMT

    Cool stuff. Very inspirational, indeed. My preferred follow-up would be: Could you give us a couple of examples of things you’ve changed and how you went about it.

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    zira Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:17:45 GMT

    goddamn…

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    clena Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:00:35 GMT

    nice work!

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    qels Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:21:42 GMT

    zhestkiey stuff

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    kirk Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:34:59 GMT

    use advatage settings

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    jop Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:56:23 GMT

    really?

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    poltishka Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:19:25 GMT

    zaeban kak gavno

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    zaroba Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:40:52 GMT

    i didn’t know that there are gloves for that. I wear most of the time a scarf wraped around my wrist.

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    zakalo4ka Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:50:00 GMT

    ivrit is no good

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